While Pope Francis is in the United States effectively advocating for a borderless America, many people are amused by the irony of the giant wall surrounding his own Vatican City.

Take the lead, Holy Father: Tear down that wall!


During his speech before Congress, Pope Francis implored U.S. politicians to embrace migrants seeking to come into America.

“Our world is facing a refugee crisis of a magnitude not seen since the second World War,” the pope said, according to USA Today, including “thousands of persons (who) are led to travel north in search of a better life.

“We must not be taken aback by their numbers, but rather view them as persons, seeing their faces and listening to their stories, trying to respond as best we can to their situation.”

“To respond in a way which is always humane, just and fraternal. We need to avoid a common temptation nowadays: to discard whatever proves troublesome.”

The wall in these photos is something more impressive than anything even Donald Trump could build.

  • Clint Westwood

    The Vatican wall is slightly different from the wall Trump is proposing – the Vatican wall has gloryholes. 🙂

  • albeit

    Hypocrisy at its finest.

    At least the Vatican is consistent about its hypocrisy.

  • If the Pope is all for immigrants then he should invite them to live in Rome.

  • Mark

    All European Nations, as well as Australia and the U.S. should STOP Destroying White Spaces (DWS) we need to begin massive deportation of all illegal non-white aliens, and then place a moratorium on all immigration, stopping all resettlement programs.

    All European Nations must encourage government-assisted voluntary repatriation of all immigrants.

    A few ‘Religious Organizations’ who use their resettlement programs to (DWS) – World Relief, the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops, Lutheran Immigration and Refugee Service, Episcopal Migration Ministries, Hebrew Immigrant Aid Society.

  • The fact that the Vatican Leonine wall is peppered with archways seems to have escaped your attention … and it is an ancient monument, not a modern fortification. It is almost 1,200 years old

  • Alan Wayne

    They were built in the dark ages and that is where Trump wants us to return. He will never win. The
    numbers don’t work. He garners 40% of the 40% (conservatives) or 16% of
    the total voting population. This clown has much less of a chance than
    the last GOP two losers.

    • Trumprules

      You just keep your head up your as s with the rest of the liberals who know NOTHING.

  • Morris65

    To paraphrase a truly great American, “Tear down that wall, Mr. Commiepope”!

  • Jack Cieselski

    Of course the Pope is a hypocrite. Those swarms of his followers are getting his blessing to break the law. Not the laws of Mexico but the laws of the USA as an invading army. I consider this Pope to be our biggest enemy. He should be forbidden to ever enter this country again.

  • Christene Bartels

    When you look at Mexico, you see a country that is being torn apart and systematically destroyed by the drug cartels. The carnage, mayhem, violence, and murder is beyond the comprehension of Americans. We are talking about tens of thousands of innocent people murdered each year, an entire country terrorized each and every day by a drug organization so powerful, so complex, so pervasive, and so sophisticated that it defies the efforts of the top agencies of the U.S. and the world to stop it.
    People are fleeing because of what drugs are doing to their countries. Would you care to take a guess which country is the biggest consumer of illicit, illegal drugs?? As of 2010, when statistics were last gathered, the U.S. consumed over 100 billion dollars worth heroin, cocaine,crack, and marijuana per year. It is estimated that the entire worldwide trade in illegal drugs is 350 billion dollars per year. That means that the U.S. ALONE is responsible for over 30% of the illegal drugs consumed worldwide.

    When the Pope looks at the faces of traumatized children and their parents fleeing for their lives, and the country they are fleeing to is the one most directly responsible for their terror and misery, and that country talks about building walls to keep them out, what exactly should the Pope say to that country? Should he absolve them from their moral culpability? Should he allow the people of that country to absolve themselves from the horrific consequences other people are paying because of their hedonistic, selfish lifestyles? I don’t know, I personally think we deserve to be called out. But does it go beyond that? Do we, as a country, have a Christian responsibility to take in ALL of those who are fleeing the carnage and mayhem that, one could argue, we are largely responsible? Because, THAT, kiddies, is the perspective the Pope is coming from and obviously he hit a nerve.

    And one more thing. Give the “TEAR DOWN THIS WALL” mantra a rest. Vatican City is all of 110 acres with a population of 842 people. The wall that surrounds it is a THOUSAND years old. So the Pope should just bulldoze it? Seriously?? And the Vatican is also hosting 2 Syrian families, so let’s give that one a rest, too.

    • Let Mexico solve its own problem, and tell Hollywood to stop glamorizing drug use.

      • Christene Bartels

        Well, if America would stop snorting, shooting up, and toking its way through life, Mexico might just have a fighting chance.

        • We have a President who admitted “doing some blow”. Did he ever reveal who sold him his “blow”? How about holding Hollywood and music stars responsible for naming their sources?

          • Christene Bartels

            Couldn’t agree MORE!! Perhaps we should show old “I smoked but didn’t inhale” Clinton and President Snorty side by side with El Chapo and decapitated bodies. Give the issue that visceral connection.

          • Nothing stops so long as people think it’s cool and glamorous. So long as a doper is ‘hip’ in the public’s eyes there will be those trying to be “just like”. We can’t solve Mexico’s problem by letting them all into the USA. As long as our leaders make it appear cool, Hollywood makes it look even cooler, and the a part of the music industry portrays the drug/gangster lifestyle as high achievement, we’ll keep bringing drugs in, and Mexicans will keep killing their own. I’ve said it many times, when our President acquired cocaine he aided a felony. Why isn’t he forced to reveal his source?

          • Christene Bartels

            You make very valid points. No argument here.

            I was just trying to illustrate the prism through which the Pope sees the world’s problems, which is faith. He is not a political man, but we just love to politicize him.

          • I think he’s political. He’s a Latin American Jesuit. Latin Jesuits are notoriously political. The church has been political for ages. The Polish cardinal who became Pope helped topple a communist regime.
            The Pope went to the border for one reason, and that reason was political. I think he’s a big enough boy to handle the criticism he knew he’d generate. After all, that was part of his plan.

          • Jersey_Prophet

            The pope IS a political animal. He never passes an opportunity to berate capitalism. Don’t give me this garbage about his compassion for the downtrodden. Let him spend the Catholic Church’s billions on the poor as a way of showing compassion rather than blame the economic system responsible for bringing wealth and freedom to more people than Catholicism and socialism will ever do!

          • Well actually you’re not quite right there in one sense. The Pope gave over the Papal quarters (this Pope has never used them) to a Syrian refugee family. Exactly how many Syrian refugee families has Trump housed? None, I’ll be bound.

          • Jersey_Prophet

            That the Pope has given quarter to a Christian Syrian family only proves the point that this was an act of political tokenism. The very fact you draw a parallel to Trump points out that you view the act politically. If you doubt it is political, ask why doesn’t the Pope house dispossessed Christian refugees from any of the African countries under Islamic genocidal attack, or even Druize and Coptic refugees from ISIS?

            The Pope is a prelate. It is no skin off his back to use the resources of the Church – some gained through conquest and slavery – to make a political point.Trump is a businessman. He doesn’t use Other People’s Money for political gain.

          • You clearly have very little knowledge of this Pope. I am definitely not a Papist nor even an RC apologist but facts must be balanced or you weaken your own argument. The Pope refused the quarters when he ascended to the Papacy. My question about Trump is that I doubt he has generously housed ANY refugees, let alone the needy Syrian ones. On becoming Pope he went and lodged in a cheap bed and breakfast in the vicinity of the Vatican. He is a Franciscan, hence Pope Francis, and does not like pomp and flummery. I am sure that his gesture to the Syrian family was political in the sense that he wanted Catholics generally to follow his example. He did this because of the sheer quantity of refugees entering Europe from Syria. This is the largest refugee crisis since World War 2 (http://www.unhcr.org/cgi-bin/texis/vtx/refdaily?pass=52fc6fbd5&id=55d17e7b5) but you’re American and probably unaware of such fine detail. If you want to see why, click here: https://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&site=imghp&tbm=isch&source=hp&biw=1680&bih=949&q=horrors+syria&oq=horrors+syria&gs_l=img.3…1088.5069.0.6526.….0…1.1.64.img..2.9.787.dXrBsLHsfW8

          • I am not a Papist nor even an apologist for the RC church, but your argument has to be balanced, accounting for positives as well as negatives, or you weaken your own position. The Pope is a Franciscan Catholic and he offered the apartment to help. my point is that I doubt very much that Trump has housed any refugees. If you are going to quote conquest and slavery then Trump’s ancestors may have gained their fortune through similar methods, but that was all a long while ago.

            The US is an inherently racist country, with blacks forming 14% of the population but 44% of the prison population. It comes as no surprise to Europeans that Americans are now supporting a racist president. It’s part of the way forward for y’all, perhaps?

          • Jersey_Prophet

            I was under the impression the Pope was a Jesuit, or so it was posted by another on this page. Jesuits are inherently redistributionist and conform to Marxist ideology.

            However you comment about racism is totally unacceptable, and demonstrably false. You have totally undone any respect for your intellect I was beginning to have. What an absurd illogical argument you post about the percentages! Blacks form under 14% of the US population but happen to populate professional basketball in ratios even more skewed than their slice of the prison population .Do you not sense my point? White men can’t shoot baskets. Black men do things that get them put in jail in far greater proportion to their race. Chinese people learn to play violin better because their culture values discipline. Get the drift?? This is not racism. This is fact! Deal with it and stop making the tired old shibboleth that the US is a racist country! YOU type are the reason Trump will win in November. Common sense folks have had just about enough of listening to your pc merde already!

            If the impostor POS now occupying the WH whose mantra was “Forward,” took us to where we now are – a nation on the brink of class & race warfare and economic disintegration, then the American people want to go backward…backward to a time when merit, not class-based preferences was the rule!

            I am entering my eighth decade. I have been around this world too long to suffer fools. I happen to have a very high intellect. Not to brag, but again…to state fact. Now, if you dare call me racist, you will have ended this discussion by proving your cognitive dysfunction is past the point of repair.

          • http://blackdemographics.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/Population-2-chart-1790-to-2012.jpg US population 5 Black American 2012 = 16.2% my apologies for the slight error.

          • Jersey_Prophet

            14.2%. Check your own facts!

            The US Census last taken in 2010 calls it 12.2%. I believe it has only risen one percent since then.

          • In 2014, 6% of all black males ages 30 to 39 were in prison, compared to 2% of Hispanic and 1% of white males in the same age group.



          • Jersey_Prophet

            Apparently you did not read my post. Read it before sending me copy/paste stats. It is not an argument to post facts in support of a bogus interpretation of the numbers seen through the class-based racial lens of a leftie, as yours is.

          • “When Mexico sends its people, they’re not sending their best. They’re not sending you. They’re not sending you. They’re sending people that have lots of problems, and they’re bringing those problems with us. They’re bringing drugs. They’re bringing crime. They’re rapists. And some, I assume, are good people.” (Donald Trump)

            The above comment is undoubtedly racist. It prompted almost 600,000 Britons to sign a petition calling for Trump to be banned from the UK.

          • Jersey_Prophet

            If the truth is “racist” then that makes me a racist. So what if 600,000 Brits sign a damned petition. 6,000,000 of them are cheering Trump and wish their mealy-mouthed PM would grow a similar set!

            GB also banned Michael Savage. Such bans are becoming badges of honor!

            I wonder how long a travel ban on President Trump lasts after he reminds GB who saved their asses in WWII and who’ll let them stew in their own Muslim soup the next time they beg for us to save their sorry a**es!

          • I can see why you support Trump, as you manage to exude an odious miasma in a breathtakingly effortless way. Your thinking is typical of the hardened right-wing around the world: protectionist; divided down racial and/or religious lines and you consider yourself to be embattled, an essential victim feature for nationalists. In Russia it is gay people and pro-Europeans and in the UK the English Defence League are against Muslims. Each country has its own particular flavour but what of Michael Savage?

            He was the one that said of Autism that it’s:

            “A fraud, a racket. … In 99 percent of the cases, it’s a brat who hasn’t been told to cut the act out. That’s what autism is. What do you mean they scream and they’re silent? They don’t have a father around to tell them, ‘Don’t act like a moron. You’ll get nowhere in life. Stop acting like a putz. Straighten up. Act like a man. Don’t sit there crying and screaming, idiot.”

            What an odious man! Oh, and then there were his comments about gay people:

            “…You have to explain this to them in this time of mental rape that’s going on. The children’s minds are being raped by the homosexual mafia, that’s my position. They’re raping our children’s minds.”

            “…I want to puke when I hear about a woman married to a woman raising children because, frankly, I think that it’s child abuse to do that to children without their permission…”

            No wonder he was banned from our country. I fully support that order as the man is clearly unhinged. But apparently you seem to think he is OK.

            Now, on the subject of racism, this is what he said about Muslims:

            Speaking about Muslims:

            “…I said so kill 100 million of them, then there would be 900 million of them. I mean would you rather us die than them? I mean what is it gonna take for you people to wake up? Would you rather we disappear or we die? Or would you rather they disappear and they die? Because you’re gonna have to make that choice sooner rather than later.”

            “…I have a number of things that I am gonna demand and one of them is that no more Muslim immigrants come into this country. No more mosques be permitted to be built in this country…and yes we need racial profiling immediately… And how did these Muslims get into England?… These vermin, these vermins, snuck in under asylum laws and the only reason there was an asylum law is that the liberals of England…said that we have to be nicer to Muslims.”

            Thankfully this nasty, homophobic, racist, hateful man will never darken our shores. But I still wouldn’t call him garbage or refuse.

          • Do you know, the funny things is that you are quite content, eager even, to shut out those YOU don’t want to the extent that you would ban WHOLE NATIONS of people, but you mock the ban on hate-speakers coming to the UK as “a badge of honor”. That evidences the sad purification of your logic.

          • Jersey_Prophet

            I’m so glad I live in a nation where they know the difference between free speech and beheadings, and where the Constitution has a Bill of Rights which protects the former. I know rhetoric can ‘cut,’ like a rapier but I have yet to witness any blood flow from its blade! And I’m glad to live in a nation that learned from it’s ‘mother’ country’s mistake to also incorporate a right to own guns to defend oneself against a rogue government (or individual) bent on harming the innocent.

            Yes, there are places in the US where free speech is institutionally controlled by the PC Nazis. These are the same places that often impose parallel restrictions on firearms. They are known as “gun-free zones,” I defy you to find and name ONE terrorist beheading or shooting that DIDN’T take place in such a zone.

            I know facts are inconvenient things to a bleeding heart lib, but Muslims have a problem with Jews and Christians and want them dead. Not all Muslims, but it is in their scriptural writings, and the number of zealots among them is something for which the only solution is a total ban. When there is a disease emanating from a certain area of the globe, travel to and from can be banned. This ban affects the non-diseased as well. The same principle must apply to the areas affected by hate and which contain a segment of the population groomed from childhood to kill apostates.

            Mr. Trump recognizes these facts, proposes the solution needed to deal with them, and has struck a nerve with a nation fed up with your type who prefer to commit national homicide rather than address the problem where and with the means that can and will end it, PERIOD!

          • My ‘type’? What do you know about my ‘type’? You live in a free country? Very funny. A country so free that one family, the Waltons, have more wealth than the poorest 50% of the population? A country that has seen almost 1.2 million deaths by gun misuse since Lennon died in 1978 and where San Bernadino is just one of the latest atrocities? A country where racial segregation is still lawful (esp. in schools)?

            You have witnessed no blood flow from rhetoric? What of the people that died in all of these shootings? Do you seriously imagine there was no rhetoric in any of them, not even one of them? The notion is completely preposterous and naive.

            Your argument is self-defeating because you don;’t want anyone coming to the US (the banning in your second paragraph) to act on hate but you are quite happy to watch it being spread on the basis of free speech? That is an absurd position to take because, logically, spreading hate spreads violence and killings. That is why the likes of Michael Savage have been banned from the UK. Also, America currently does the same to people it doesn’t want to enter the US, so perhaps not such free speech as you thought? Your country excludes potential visitors, but it dresses it up differently for the most part with ‘he had connections to this’ or ‘she did that in her past’ but it is effectively the same.

            Sadly you, like Michael Savage, seem to think that you are the ‘patriots’ and anyone else is the ‘danger’. That is another ludicrous notion as you don’t need to be a right-wing reactionary to want good for your country. This is defective thinking and shows that you are probably not that smart after all.

          • Jersey_Prophet

            Are you THAT clueless? Do you define “freedom” as equality of outcome? So Sam Walton’s billions are in some perverted corner of your mind a zero sum consequence of 50% of the population somehow having gotten screwed??? OMG, do people still think this way in the 21st Century?? Do you know, If the entire Walton family gave every dollar of their 150 billion fortune divided equally to each the 150 million whom he ‘robbed,’ they would each have barely enough to pay one month’s rent? Do the math yourself, Mr. Marxist do-gooder: $150 billion/150 million victims = $1000 per victim!

            That statement of yours about the Waltons tells me EXACTLY ALL I need to know about you. Yes, your type is sooooo typical. A Zero Sum-er! How pitiful, the small way your mind operates. That form of calculus is WHY Europe is going down. What a pity. The cluelessness you exhibit is case in point why your nation is doomed. I am so glad I don’t live there. it must feel like being on the deck of the Titanic and hearing the captain’s reassuring words that “All is well.” You haven’t a clue, never will, and is proud of your blithe ignorance about causality.

            I won’t even try to argue the folly of your reasoning re hate speech. It is, sorry to say, throwing pearls to the swine. You wouldn’t begin to understand the concept of free speech and the pernicious consequences of speech and thought control, no matter how I tried to explain it. I feel sorry for you in your impenetrable ignorance. Why a whole nation founded on correcting the mistakes of the old country, on exalting the sovereignty of the individual and his inherent rights rather than the folly of ‘group rights’ is totally lost on you. There’s no fixing stupid. I now see! Forgive my invective. I find no other way of coping with the naivete.

            Listen, you’re probably a good chap. I have enjoyed our exchange. What’s sad is you are in a box and I am unable to open it. Take some consolation in knowing you aren’t alone. Many more of the terminally deluded occupy below-deck cabins in your box. At least you occupy an upper deck – with the ability to use clever turns of phrase to clothe the corpus of a bankrupt ideology.

            You will understand what I mean in due time. Sadly, by then it will be too late. Likely it already is. The ship has hit the iceberg while the musicians played on…

          • He is a Jesuit Pope, the first in fact, but he chose his papal name after St Francis of Assisi, and not after the Jesuit co-founder St Francis Xavier, causing many to question if he is a Jesuit or Franciscan Pope. See Wiki: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pope_Francis

            “At his first audience on 16 March 2013, Francis told journalists that he had chosen the name in honor of Saint Francis of Assisi, and had done so because he was especially concerned for the well-being of the poor.[197][198][199] He explained that, as it was becoming clear during the conclave voting that he would be elected the new bishop of Rome, the Brazilian Cardinal Cláudio Hummes had embraced him and whispered, “Don’t forget the poor”, which had made Bergoglio think of the saint.[200][201] Bergoglio had previously expressed his admiration for St. Francis, explaining that “He brought to Christianity an idea of poverty against the luxury, pride, vanity of the civil and ecclesiastical powers of the time. He changed history.”[202]

            Although he is a Jesuit, he behaves more like a Franciscan in his dealings with the poor and vulnerable.

    • Jersey_Prophet

      Another lib bleeding heart! You “don”t know” whether we should be called out? Then shut up with the Blame America First And For Everything Wrong With The World and learn a few facts! The illegals are coming here to mooch off a generous welfare system and an open border enforced by a Marxist impostor president who doesn’t give a damn about the drug problem but sees a bonanza of votes coming the Dem’s way. Your argument about the US being at fault for consuming drugs is the typical straw man argument. Drugs were a problem way before obama commanded the Border patrol from DOING ITS JOB! No country admits as many immigrants over the years as the USA, hands down.

      The “tear down this wall” mantra is rhetorical. It is merely to point out the blatant hypocrisy of the Pope. You can bet he will walk back his comments. The cardinals at the Vatican are furious and will likely depose him unless he does. And, by the way the two token Syrian families being hosted are Christian.

      What a fool and hypocritical shill for anti-Americanism. Go live in Mexico and try to fix the problems there before you berate the people of the most charitable, generous nation in the world!

      • Christene Bartels

        Good grief!! Calm down!! You’re going to burst an artery!! I will just leave you with this;

        Matt. 25:31-46 f “When the Son of Man comes in his glory, and all the angels with him, he will sit upon his glorious throne,
        g and all the nations* will be assembled before him. And he will separate them one from another, as a shepherd separates the sheep from the goats.
        He will place the sheep on his right and the goats on his left.
        Then the king will say to those on his right, ‘Come, you who are blessed by my Father. Inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world.
        h For I was hungry and you gave me food, I was thirsty and you gave me drink, a stranger and you welcomed me,
        naked and you clothed me, ill and you cared for me, in prison and you visited me.’
        Then the righteous* will answer him and say, ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry and feed you, or thirsty and give you drink?
        When did we see you a stranger and welcome you, or naked and clothe you?
        When did we see you ill or in prison, and visit you?’
        i And the king will say to them in reply, ‘Amen, I say to you, whatever you did for one of these least brothers of mine, you did for me.’
        * j Then he will say to those on his left, ‘Depart from me, you accursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels.
        k For I was hungry and you gave me no food, I was thirsty and you gave me no drink,
        a stranger and you gave me no welcome, naked and you gave me no clothing, ill and in prison, and you did not care for me.’
        * Then they will answer and say, ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry or thirsty or a stranger or naked or ill or in prison, and not minister to your needs?’
        He will answer them, ‘Amen, I say to you, what you did not do for one of these least ones, you did not do for me.’


        • Jersey_Prophet

          Thank you for pointing out by biblical verse the blatant hypocrisy of the Church which hoards billions in wealth and treasure inside the WALLED, GUARDED Vatican which it could spend on the naked poor, hungry and thirsty alienated of the world.

          • No One Important

            That’s what I’ve never understood. . .. The Vatican, and all those “holy” men who laden themselves with wealth and the trappings of a King, lecture anyone about “greed”. . .as churches around the world send in their meager and scarce monies. . . .Talk about a ponzi scheme.And then the leader has the nerve to preach about how people are “greedy?”When the Vatican sits on such vast wealth and treasure?

          • I quite agree with you on that because I am an atheist/humanist hence I do not like the Catholic Church (atheism in me) and neither do I agree with Trumps wall (humanism in me)

          • Jersey_Prophet

            I would urge you to think about humanism in terms of the nation in which you live. It is not possible to accommodate all the wretched refuse of the world’s teeming shores. Nor it is possible to vet those sliding in with ill intent from those genuinely in need. The 9-11 hijackers came in on visas. The Tsarnayev pair did as well, and so did the two who shot up San Bernardino.

            Trump’s wall and his declaration to stop cold the welcoming of Muslim invaders is absolutely the right thing to do until the immigrants fulfill the burden of proof that they neither possess harmful intent or will become a financial or social burden on the nation. The Europeans are belatedly learning the hordes of Muslim invaders are BOTH.

            Every immigrant to every nation has to surmount the burden of proof. You seem to feel the burden of proof must be on the US to prove the immigrant means harm. Why? NO! It’s the immigrant’s burden to prove! I will never subvert the security of a nation on such a preposterous inversion of logic on due process to prove eligibility for admittance!

          • You use the word ‘refuse’ for fellow humans? If you mean that then clearly you are no better than the hatemongers of the Islamic State, whom you claim to despise. Educate yourself!

          • Jersey_Prophet

            “Give me your tired, your poor, Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free, The wretched refuse of your teeming shore…”

            Educate YOURSELF, ignoramus! Those words appear on the bronze plaque at the Statue of Liberty’s base! You never read the 1883 poem of Jewish poet Emma Lazarus?? I was paraphrasing a phrase from one of the most famous lines in literature!

            You are pathetic!

          • If you read my post carefully I said that the US is inherently racist and I stand by that comment. The stats that I sent to you are all from US government or media sources. I am sorry you feel offended but when you call humans other than your own kind ‘refuse’ (garbage), you have to expect people to react in an indignant and terse way. Maybe in the US your words are acceptable, but they are deeply offensive to most people in Europe (except the right wing racist nutters)

      • You are all immigrants of one generation or another in the US, except for the indigenous Indians of course.

      • Does it matter whether they are Christian or Muslim? Are you seriously making a distinction? Mt goodness how American morals have fallen.

        • Jersey_Prophet

          YES, it matters. Even the Pope understands the atavistic impulses of the Muzzies is a part of their cultural DNA and represent a danger to his personal security.

          This is not a question of “morals.” It is one of self preservation!

      • And you call me an ignoramus when you ‘rhetorically’ call for the ancient walls of the Vatican to be pulled down? Sorry, but your comments are at best bizarre at times. You have to realise that the Vatican Wall was built in the early Medieval period and are protected.

        • Jersey_Prophet

          Thank you for the history lesson. Your comprehension of English and your complete ignorance of the point (and power!) of rhetorical language is so naive as to leave me with no recourse beyond paroxysms of laughter.

          As I predicted, the Papacy quickly walked back the Pope’s foolish political interference into American politics. No doubt he was sternly lectured by the Cardinals and will mind his secular humanist tongue better in the future. I know how that distresses humanists such as you, but Francis needed a stern wrist slap to leave politics to the politicians, or risk politicians finding license to apply politics to Christianity!

          • Wrong again! The cardinals cannot lecture the Pope and besides, far too many people think the Pope was right say what he said about Trump. Building America’s version of the Berlin Wall across the border with Mexico is a repugnant act. I am aware that you think differently, but then you support him with his racist policies, just as you seem to be supporting the other racist, Michael Savage with his bilious babble.

          • The other factor that you should bear in mind is that Michael Savage could not say some of these things in the UK. He would breach hate laws and would likely end up in court and possibly even in prison as some of the comments about killing millions of Muslims would be considered very serious indeed. You can no more say that here than you could say the same of Jews or any other identifiable group, i.e. you could not say this about gay people either: good job too.

    • No One Important

      What the he|| does your blithering about the drug cartel have to do with the Pope’s hypocrisy?The “tear down the wall” is a response to the Pope having security, however denouncing it for others.The pope lives behind a contingency of Swiss guards who protect it. This is the only “standing army” that the Swiss have. . .those that protect the Vatican.Strange isn’t it?You are aware that this 110 acres is a “sovereign nation” right? So the pope has a wall, and “border” security.So maybe you should stow your sanctimonious attitudes and realize there is a “point” people are making.Why is it always liberals, who live behind high walls, fences and heavy security that think the rest of us aren’t entitled to a wall, a fence or border security?Don’t want walls, Pope?You first! Tear down your wall!

  • Trumprules

    I hope SATAn is saving a place in HELL for this piece of crap of a pope. That’s where he needs to go.

  • Charles Scruffy

    Just like the Democrats on voter ID’s. Hypocrites….It is so easy to say the PC thing. But the reality is that there must be some checks and balances..We all would like to be Santa .

  • Stingray_3440

    Yet another “religious” figurehead that has not a clue. But does have a really big wall.

  • Realist500

    Why build a wall, when a minefield will do nicely. I’m not concerned over illegal invaders being stopped at Americas Border, are you?

  • JimmieMee

    I think the pope should take in ….say 10,000 ‘refugees’….he could feed and shelter that many no problems …right?

  • Dusty Koellhoffer

    NEVER TRUST REPORTERS! The reporter who posed the question to the Pope misrepresented Trump and then misrepresented the Pope’s response. Trump does build bridges and the Pope did not say Trump was not a Christian. It’s semantics, but it matters.

    Politicians don’t fight fair and neither do journalists:


    Pope should stay out of it.

  • Mike Person

    Oh, that’s different. Just like the liberals. “I know what’s best for you, but I’ll do what I want.” The Pope is a political instrument running a church that makes a mockery of Christianity.

  • Jersey_Prophet

    Not only is there a wall around Vatican City, the Pope hires the Swiss Guard to police it. He doesn’t even trust the Romans! And not a single Arab refugee is allowed asylum inside.

    So much for the ‘Christianity’ of the Pope!

    • I have corrected you above over this. The Pope gave his quarters in the Vatican to a Syrian refugee family and most of the entrances to the Vatican are permanently open. One is a two lane freeway!

  • Horseman.

    The Vatican’s walls, which do not completely surround the enclave, date back more than 1,000 years, to the time of Pope Leo IV, who commissioned the construction of what is known as the Leonine Wall following the sacking of Old St. Peter’s Basilica by Islamic Saracens in 846.
    That’s from Wikipedia.

    • No One Important

      The wall itself, is amazingly rich with history.http://roma.andreapollett.com/S4/vatic21.htmThe building composes part of the wall, and yes, all parts are guarded and the Vatican is completely “separate” (it is its own nation) . . .

    • Dangerous Dan

      The Vatican is locked down tighter than a dolphins asshole. The Communist Pope is a hypocrite to chastise Americans who would attempt to preserve their borders.

      • Horseman.

        Of course. The Pope is a meddling liberal hypocritical little busybody.

      • pintorider

        Tighter than a bull’s ass in fly season.

  • No One Important

    Why is it always liberals, who live behind high walls, fences and heavy security that think the rest of us aren’t entitled to a wall, a fence or border security?Maybe the Pope should stick to issues of the Church, and stay out of issues where his opinion is neither wanted nor needed. .. .

  • Francis Flandro

    Ask Jesuit Pope Francis how many Nazi war criminals he helped launder through

    South America? Operation Paperclip?

  • Rick Smith

    Miserable stinking socialist hypocrite.

  • BeagleDawg

    Well Pope open up the Vatican to illegal immigrants. You are a religious hypocrite.

  • Shoot-boy, Howdy

    How dare this man come to the border of our country and demand that we damage ourselves more to suit his socialist nonsense. When has this country received the smallest amount of credit for the good works that we have done for the world? Why does being a citizen of this country mean that we just get to pay all the bills?

  • TheTruthWillSetYouFree003

    The sainted Pope John Paul worked with the great and sadly missed Ronald Reagan to free millions from the chains of communism and the poverty that came with it, and allowed them to enjoy the freedom and prosperity of capitalism. Now, in Pope Francis, we have a radical socialist who is doing all he can to diminish capitalism and put millions back under the yolk of communism. I don’t know whether Francis is evil or simply misguided, but the impoverished, socialist hell hole of Venezuela is how the whole world would look if he had his way. In the interest of accuracy, they should change his title from Holy Father to Comrade.

  • No One Important

    Why is it always liberals, who live behind high walls, fences and heavy security that think the rest of us aren’t entitled to a wall, a fence or border security?Don’t want walls, Pope?You first! Tear down your wall!

  • H.F. Cross

    Of course the pope don’t think trump is a Christian, Neither am I he would say. Catholics still have a problem with Protestants it seems. LOL

  • City observer
    • No One Important

      There is a reason that we have the old adage:”Good fences make for good neighbors.”

  • Steven Foster

    what trump should now do is carry those and other pictures like that around with him and when asked about it say that’s just the type of wall he wants to build.

  • Dusty Koellhoffer
  • Michael Miller
  • Ricky, Bubbles & Julian

    if he’s so gung-ho on immigrants, send them to the vatican and cram all of them in there and see how much he likes it. actually because many illegals are children, i’m sure it’ll be like the dinner bell being rung at 500 decibels. go get ’em pope and bring your sleazy pedo friends

  • ru56by .

    Damn those medieval walls built in 9th century Rome than don’t surround the Vatican.Israel should tear down the Wailing Wall, too. That’ll please the wingnuts.

    • Jersey_Prophet

      Those 40 foot high walls used to surround the ENTIRE Vatican Hill! And their purpose then was to keep out…wait…you guessed it – 9th century Muslims!

      How history repeats and how the clueless NEVER learn from it!

      • ru56by .

        LOL! Mr History, what a boob

  • Jessica Ely

    The difference between that and what Trump is doing is there are doors in the wall for people to come in, and he welcomes people to come in. Trump is doing it to keep people out.

    • James Montale

      There is a huge difference between keeping Vatican City safe from criminals and terrorists and keeping the entire United States safe. Vatican City is a relatively small enclave within the City of Rome which itself is within the administrative region of Lazio which is within the nation of Italy. Each of these political entities provides either police or military services so that Vatican City is within a multi-layered shell of protection.

      The nation of Italy is fortunate in being surrounded on three sides by water and on the north by the Alps. This is probably why Italy has been the least-invaded country in Western Europe in the last 500 years. The Thirty Years War, Ottoman Wars, Napoleonic Wars, and World War I all left Italy untouched. Today all the land crossings into Italy are constantly monitored and manned by the border police service or Guardia di Finanza, a branch of the Italian Army.

      Since we can’t transport the Alps to our southern border, Donald Trump believes, and I agree, that a continuously monitored and guarded wall is the only suitable mode of first-line protection for our country from criminals and terrorists. In some areas a physical wall may be the best solution. In other areas an “electronic wall” that warns of any attempted illegal crossing may serve better. But the one thing we cannot afford is no wall of any kind.

      • Jersey_Prophet

        Bravo! Well said!

  • 1Psuche

    Brazen hypocrisy….Look at his walls and he should clean house with the pedophile priest problem.

    “You hypocrite, first take the plank out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to remove the speck from your brother’s eye.” Matthew 7:5

  • Figjam_US

    This of course is ridiculous. First the wall has been there for centuries. The wall does NOT, enclose the entire Vactian City perimeter and one does NOT need permission to enter.

    • James Montale

      When the wall that today partially encloses Vatican City was first built in the 9th Century by order of Pope Leo IV, it DID ENTIRELY enclose Vatican Hill. It was built expressly to protect the original St.Peter’s Basilica following an invasion and partial destruction of the Basilica by Muslim raiders in the year 846 and is known as the Leonine Wall, named for Leo IV. The wall was constructed of masonry and was forty feet high with 44 strong towers at bowshot intervals.

      Over the centuries various popes built and expanded structures on Vatican Hill and what came to be known as Vatican City eventually extended beyond the original 9th Century wall. As Vatican City came under the military protection of the City of Rome, the wall was seen as less essential for protection from invasion and parts of it were opened for passage and for new construction. So today Pope Francis does not live in a city completely enclosed by the Leonine Wall, but it is an historical fact that the wall was built as a fortification against invasion and many popes in the past lived in a Vatican City completely enclosed by walls.

      • Figjam_US

        …thank you but the point is, that it is not enclosed now and that one can enter unimpeded.

        • Jersey_Prophet

          I believe the point is, HISTORY REPEATS, and the barbarians are again at the gate. The plum for the Muslim barbarians would be making a mosque out of St. Peters. Don’t for a moment think otherwise! They did it to the St. Sophia of Constantinople. Why? Because they could! They will do it to St. Peter’s when the stupid Europeans forget the lessons of the past.

    • Jersey_Prophet

      You Do need permission to stay. Only short term visitors are welcome (IF they pay the cost of a ticket). NO immigrant refugees allowed.


    Anybody can walk into the Vatican. It’s open to everyone. That’s the whole point. The Vatican walls were built over 1000 years ago to prevent real invaders like barbarians from pillaging. The Vatican is a historical landmark much like a museum.

  • Maybe the pope didn’t notice the wall around the Vatican when he disrespected Donald Trump with his nonsensical “You’re not a Christian” bull? This is why I’m agnostic. I could care less what the pope thinks.

  • ranch111

    The Vatican walls were built to repel Muslims back in 846 AD. Luckily they still are functional for today’s Muslim invasion.

  • Patrick Caraway

    You people are idiots. He didn’t build the wall for one thing they were put there to keep artifacts safe from attacks. Haha you want him to tear down something that’s been there for over a thousand years?

  • Marcella Peterson

    Idiots. That wall is History! From a time when that wall was the only thing protecting that complex/city. You wouldn’t just tear down the great Wall of China?! It was put up to keep people out too… Don’t promote stupidity through ignorance and inability to make proper comparisons. The “flood” of immigrants coming into America isn’t just for money, though it does help to believe one can have a better standard of living… they are escaping horrible, hard, and even war torn town/cities/countries. All white people ancestors came to America, and established it again later during the American Revolution, for Equality! Liberty! Freedom! A chance! That’s all these people want. Is a chance. Please go back to school and take a Pre-modern US history course. You’ll see the American Revolution was started because the elite ruled and inherited rule and thought they should rule, just like right now…

    • Ezra

      What I find dishonest about your statement is that people never mention that prior to the late 19th Century there were few if any immigration laws. So any comparisons between now and two centuries ago are nonsensical.